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Post by Shutter Girl on Apr 7, 2007 6:35:24 GMT -5
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Post by MaxQuad on Nov 12, 2008 11:45:45 GMT -5
Not sure why I am posting this here - in this thread, but what happened with Proposition 6 in Ohio? Did it pass or fail? As the permanent casino construction in Buffalo is stalled - as a result of legal obstacles and a failing economy, I'm interested to hear what happened to the west of us. MQ
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Post by stubedoo on Nov 12, 2008 20:38:40 GMT -5
And unfortunately Proposition 8 passed in California.
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Post by MaxQuad on Nov 12, 2008 21:36:58 GMT -5
And unfortunately Proposition 8 passed in California. Yes, it was sad to see that. Such a step backward. MQ
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Post by stubedoo on Nov 17, 2008 18:42:31 GMT -5
I have every confidence that it will ultimately be repealed. But ironically it was the African Americans that turned the vote. The gays all thought the blacks would vote for them because it's a civil rights issue, so they didn't concentrate the advertising on that population. Instead they concentrated on trying to convert the conservative white vote. But the blacks voted for the measure 2:1.
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Post by MaxQuad on Nov 17, 2008 22:42:27 GMT -5
I have every confidence that it will ultimately be repealed. But ironically it was the African Americans that turned the vote. The gays all thought the blacks would vote for them because it's a civil rights issue, so they didn't concentrate the advertising on that population. Instead they concentrated on trying to convert the conservative white vote. But the blacks voted for the measure 2:1. I had not heard that. Interesting. And where's our Ohio team to tell us about Issue 6? MQ
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Post by Shutter Girl on Nov 21, 2008 7:29:31 GMT -5
Issue 6!!
I'm not surprised it didn't pass, the advertising against it was really brutal. Sure there's a loophole but a) it's unlikely that would happen and b) even if it did we'd still be creating a lot of jobs in Ohio.
Hopefully they'll come back next year with a new revised way of getting gambling passed!
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Post by MaxQuad on Nov 21, 2008 14:51:26 GMT -5
Issue 6!! I'm not surprised it didn't pass, the advertising against it was really brutal. Sure there's a loophole but a) it's unlikely that would happen and b) even if it did we'd still be creating a lot of jobs in Ohio. Hopefully they'll come back next year with a new revised way of getting gambling passed! Having lived through years of debate here in Western New York about the positive or negative economic impact of a casino, it is with interest that I read your comments. If one listens to many casino opponents, the argument against casinos actually creating new jobs is not necessarily a given. Another argument, utilizing a casino as the nidus of an economic revitalization also is not something that resonates in Western New York when one looks at the sorry state of downtown Niagara Falls despite the presence of the Seneca casino. The above arguments are primarily economic arguments against as opposed to opposition based on moral arguments about gambling or the potential for other vices tagging along, like prostitution and illicit drugs. Local government (Erie County and the City of Buffalo) are pinning an economic and tourist boost from a downtown casino, but it is not universally seen as a panacea or economic windfall. On the whole, I would have to say I am unconvinced that a casino is good for Buffalo - and given my hopes and dreamns for Buffalo, I wish I could believe in it. At best, I am ambivalent about a downtown casino in Buffalo moving forward. On other days, I am actually happy to see construction stalled because of law suits and economic downturns - hoping Buffalo's biomedical corridor and bioinformatics efforts, along with its cultural and educational institutions will be the actual spark of a comeback of this city. MQ
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